some of the other public sector things, the post office, amtrak, green energy, all multibillion dollar colossal failures. ibm, at&t, google, other start-ups, those are millionity billion dollar winners. should the government turn it over to one of the private sector groups? >> it should go to the private sector. they are literally choking the last breath out of the free market and that's the way they want it. they want it all to funnel back. >> you're right. >> every road to the government to eliminate all choice, any form of capitalism in this country. that is what's coming. it's a bust. >> i hate to upset this wonderful party we're having here condemning obama care. but does anybody remember that, in fact, it was republicans conservatives who said we don't want single payer. we want the insurance companies involved in these exchanges and this is the way to go. and guess what president obama accommodated republican positions to try and get a deal. no republican support it. republican complaints, fascism. >> michelle and then john and then we've got to go. >> what obama care is doing r